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By Charles (137.219.16.107) on Monday, March 12, 2001 - 03:16 pm:

Does anyone know that the Japanese cvcc EK engines produced 97hp at 5300. That is a fair whack more than the US spec ones. And if there are any at your local importers you will find them to be a cheap transplant into an old civic. Now if you push 2.5 times the air and fuel in with a turbo you should be close to 250hp.

MMM.

By the way I have now got an EJ head in my hot little hands. The mods to convert to turbo are very simple and easy and it all fits on. The EK would be much the same. So if any US guys want a superfast bolt in factory Honda efi turbo conversion, it is there and easy!

By Jonathan (192.216.197.141) on Tuesday, July 31, 2001 - 01:45 pm:

Hey Charles...I can get a rebuilt EK jap motor for $700....should I go for it? Also, I have absolutely NO expeariance swapping engines whatsoever. Besides an engine hoist, what else am I gonna need and what problems might I run into? Thanks in advance
Portland, OR

By John S. (207.160.163.91) on Wednesday, August 01, 2001 - 12:24 pm:

I'd like to know exactly what it is that makes the Japanese motor put out the extra horses.

By Paul Krummenacker (12.145.208.11) on Wednesday, August 01, 2001 - 01:09 pm:

Jonathan, I'm in Portland too... Where can you find a Jap Spec EK motor for that price! I definately would like to look into that for my rally car project.

drop me a line.

krummenp at teleport dot com

thanks
Paul

By john stallone (63.14.203.251) on Wednesday, August 01, 2001 - 09:39 pm:

can i put a trubo on my 79 1200 (78 head i think)with the big valve head?
luckyluciano2@msn.com

By Charles (144.134.73.118) on Thursday, August 02, 2001 - 03:42 am:

Yes you can, it is expensive but the power is unbelievable. An EB3 head with injection and turbo running only 10psi boost produces over 250hp. With the 1335 crank and over bore you have 1410cc, even off boost there is heaps of torque. Fuel economy is around 7L/100km. Handling changes due to weght are neglible but factor at least $10000AUS or about $5000US to get it.

This car has (AUS)
Forged cosworth pistons $1600
Garret GT2530 Ball bearing turbo $1700
Tubular equal length stainless steel manifold $700
Motec EFI and crank trigger multiple coils $3000
Engine parts $700
Machining $500
Crank scraper $300
LSD $1600
Twin Blow off valves $300
Remote oil filter, cooler and oil thremostat, braided lines ($1000)
Twin fuel pumps, swirl pot, 1/2 inch fuel lines, modified fuel tank $900

Also factor in heaps of fabrication, 70mm throttle body, AVO intercooler, 4core race radiator, relocated battery etc etc.

But be prepared to blow the doors off anything on the road in a straight line and round the twisties. A judicial use of the throttle is required though.

By Sash (Sash) (216.161.85.199) on Thursday, August 02, 2001 - 04:06 pm:

I was just under the hood doing some rough calcs on this 79 1200 hb I just recently got for the first time (jonathan - the one I was talking about to you). I looked at the number on the block and it says EK1-#####! Does this mean this perfectly running motor is more powerful than the EB3 and easy to install? If so I now think I am going to place it in my 78 CVCC future daily driver... Can I use the CVCC carburater set up with this EK1 1200 motor? Paul, fellow portlander here too.

By quikrick (63.204.16.66) on Thursday, August 02, 2001 - 04:24 pm:

DUDE you have a 1751cc under the hood! If you post the rest of the numbers from that EK1 I can tell you what year it came out of. It could be either a 1st/2nd gen Accord or Prelude. Both the intake and exhaust manifolds will be on the firewall side. If the motor originated in the US it is probably a CVCC. If it's running good... you scored!

By Sash (Sash) (216.161.83.103) on Thursday, August 02, 2001 - 09:19 pm:

quik - I bought this car from an man who said his father bought it brand new somewhere in Longview, Washington. The car is a 79 1200 hb, this seems to conflict with what you said. Should I be second guessing the guy who I bought it from; he said there was no engine swap made. He also gave me a folder of receipts and things from 1978. Including stuff from the day it was purchased. This 79 is fairly rusty therefore I am going to pull the EK1 and put into my 78 CVCC hb. I will post the rest of the numbers tomorrow. I would appreciate the info!! Yes, it does run very, very nice after some tinkerin today(mostly gas lines). Drove it around the blocks a couple of time.
P.S. yes, they are both on the firewall side.

By Sash (Sash) (216.161.84.193) on Friday, August 03, 2001 - 07:55 am:

Here it is EK1 2516647

By quikrick (63.204.16.66) on Friday, August 03, 2001 - 08:22 am:

If the manifolds are both on the firewall side, you do NOT have a 1200! If the distributor is on the right side (passenger) of the motor, you do NOT have a 1200! If the engine ID # starts with EK1, you do NOT have a 1200!
Now when I say 1200, I am reffering to the engine size and not the body stile, you could very well have a 1200 car with a 1751cc motor. Are you sure that you don't have a '79 Accord hatch back?
I'll research that ID # over the weekend.

By Sash (Sash) (216.161.81.192) on Friday, August 03, 2001 - 01:02 pm:

quick - I thought you were talking about the body style, thus this is what I was talking about. I understand that the EK1 means it is the 1751cc motor. YEP, it is a 79 hb (1200 style Civic) with the EK1. Thanks for the researching that too!

By quikrick (63.204.16.66) on Monday, August 06, 2001 - 05:38 am:

The block is from a 1980 Accord/Prelude

By Anonymous (210.54.197.52) on Friday, August 10, 2001 - 08:26 pm:

ok ive got a EJ1....both manifold on the firewall with the dizzy on th gearbox side....any ideas????...i was sold it as a 1300cc SE model Jap import

By Anonymous (24.67.176.212) on Friday, August 10, 2001 - 10:02 pm:

I think EJ1 is the 1335 CVCC U.S.A. engine.Anyone know for sure?

By Sash (Sash) (216.161.86.81) on Tuesday, August 14, 2001 - 07:43 pm:

Hhere is a wierd one(to me that is). The badge on the 78 CVCC says it is a EB3 but he block says a ED1. What is a ED1 and how does it compare with the others we have been talking about?

By Mike S (202.12.144.21) on Tuesday, August 14, 2001 - 08:23 pm:

ED = CVCC
EB = 1200 (1170/1235) non CVCC (crossflow)
EC = 1500 non CVCC, non Crossflow.

We ought to get the designations straight.

1st Gen Civics are actually "SB" series cars (ie body shells are designated SBA (2 -door) , SBB (4 door I think), SBC (hatch) ) which use EB, EC or ED series engines!

1st Gen Accords are "SJ" series cars which have EG, EL or EK engines.

2nd Gen Accords are "SY" with EL or EK engines

Not sure about 2nd gen Civics - perhaps someone else can fill in the rest?

By Anonymous (24.67.176.212) on Wednesday, August 15, 2001 - 12:01 pm:

I think 2nd gen. Civic are EJ(1335 cvcc),EN(1335 non cvcc,crossflow) and EM(1487 cvcc).

By john stallone (63.14.198.58) on Thursday, August 16, 2001 - 11:48 pm:

Charles dose the conversion you are talking about work with either 79 1500cvcc or 79 1200cc engines?

By 2low2go (24.69.255.204) on Friday, August 17, 2001 - 10:28 pm:

Here's one for you all..

I just picked up a 78' accord

Serial # SJE81301610
Block #EG8079556

it run's excellent with compresion @175 on all four cylinders, it has a 2-barrel carb.

Just wondering is this a 1600cc?
Can't seem to find anything out about the EG, only the El and EK....

Justin

By Anonymous (24.67.176.212) on Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 10:04 am:

Yup it's a 1600. 76-78 Accord engine code is EG

By John S. (207.160.161.163) on Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 02:47 pm:

I'd still like to know exactly what differences ,i.e. intake ,cam,exhaust, or whatever, that allow the Japanese motor to produce the extra power? Charles, do you have any more info on this?