Downdraft weber linkage questions?

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By david (208.130.245.94) on Thursday, March 15, 2001 - 11:27 pm:

i just got a 28/30 dvg14A downdraft weber with adapter and K n'N filter from quikrick. i noticed the linkage on the weber seems much different then the ones on the stock one. has anyone ever put one of these type of webers on their 1200? do i have to do any fabricating or and mods the the choke and throttle cables? also what about the vacumn advance lines and the sensor? any info on the quirks of this kind of install would be much appereciated. i want to know as much as i can before jumping in, cus i need this car for work.

david

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By david (208.130.246.243) on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 03:45 am:

someone mentioned something about the stock throttle linkage bolting on to the weber. what about the little plate that holds the cable in place? and would i have to use the entire linkage or just certain sections? the throttle shaft on the weber is much shorter. i also read something about a fuel cutoff solenoid. am i going to need one of these?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By david (208.130.246.243) on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 04:04 am:

these might help.
28/30 dgv14a
28/30 dgv14a

BTW, what is that screw thingy in the little red and orange package for?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By tedshred (63.224.195.169) on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 09:42 am:

David, that little red package I think (can't tell exactly) holds the choke cable clamp screw. I found that on my '74, i had to pull the choke cable out (regreased it) so I could cut about 1.5 inches of cable housing off. I had to do this because the travel of the choke mechanism on the Weber is greater than the stock carb. You may not have this problem as I have the 32/36 Weber model. So please don't cut you cable housing first. Check it out and make sure first.

Another thing you will need is 12 inches or so of 3/8 inch fuel hose, as the old hose will not reach the fuel intake port on the Weber.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By david (206.98.121.24) on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 11:27 am:

so the weber linkage will work? what about vacumn lines? i only see one, buit my vacumn advance thingy has 2.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By david (208.130.246.42) on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 03:30 pm:

i know someone here has delt with these carbs other than ted... i have another qustion to add to the heap. what do i do with the charcoal canister?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By david (208.130.241.211) on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 04:59 pm:

looks like the peice of the stock linkage that the throttle cables goes into will fit right on. my only problem is how to fasten the cable taught. i could use the stock cables plate by making one of the holes longer to reach the second screw, but the my air filter wouldn't sit flush. any suggestions or is this going to set a record for longest thread ratio verus least responces.

tedshred, the choke cable clamp screw is already on the carb. there was a little bag of goodies with the carb too. 4 double sided base mounting bolts with a nut on one end for a head(i can see these posing a problem later with getting the thing off), 4 little screws with alan wrench heads, and 3 bracket thingies of all differnt shapes and sizes. i have no clue what this stuff is for save the mounting bolts. any clues here either? you should of gotten a kit like this with your weber.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By quikrick (63.204.16.66) on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 05:33 pm:

David,
That kit was meant to fit 3 different vehicles. Datsun, Mazda, and Honda. Some of that stuff might be meaningless to you. One of the sets of bolts is for the air filter.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By david (208.130.245.158) on Friday, March 16, 2001 - 09:05 pm:

To install the accelerator cable is possibly the only difficult thing about installing a DGV weber on your old civic.
First get a piece of metal about 1 inch wide by 4 inches long and about 4-5 mm thick. drill a hole in either end about 8mm or so (I am not sure about this).
then make 2 bends. one about a centimeter above the bottom hole of your choice, and to the right at about a 45 degree angle. then one more about a centimeter below the top hole, so that when the bottom is attached underneath the nearest intake manifold bolt, the top hole is totally facing towards the likage area. this may need a little adjusting. you may also want to cut a slit a few centimeters wide from the top into the top hole. makes it easier to get the cable in.
the accelerator cable can now be screwed into the hole at the top. there you go. weber thottle cable bracket for the 1200.

-adpted from an article by robin marshall

i post this for the benefit of anyone who gets a dgv weber for their 1200.

also i put on the peice of the linkage that the throttle cable fits into on the stock carb on to the weber. would work great except for the track peice above where the cable sits gets in the way of the return spring. when i go to the sheet metal place tomarrow to get the bracket made, i'm going to have them cut this peice off as well as anything else not needed.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By ROotUS (203.23.169.131) on Tuesday, April 24, 2001 - 06:43 am:

i have what looks to be two fuel inlets for my new weber... i think it's a 32/36 (seller suggested it's off a 2ltr ford). this carb came on a datsun 1200 manifold, so i got a redline conversion kit with it... it's got an automatic choke... which is just disconnected. where do i hook the fuel up to?

btw: there are arrows on the carb, both pointing out of the fuel inlet pipes... tell me what i'm looking at!!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By ROotUS (203.34.130.137) on Wednesday, April 25, 2001 - 05:46 am:

it's a 32/36 - and has already been used on a datsun 1200 with no troubles aparently...
but i need to know what to do with the fuel hoses! there are two ends... do i put fuel on one and plug up the other? i have a 32/36 weber on a 6cyl patrol at my house, it has mechanical choke and only one fuel thing to put the hose on.

pleese help!!!

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By owen cousins (216.232.65.178) on Wednesday, April 25, 2001 - 09:12 pm:

the stock throttle arm on my 32/36 has a larger radius than the throttle arm on the stock carb, the result being that the pedal will not open the throttle all the way. earlier i was told to stick on the stock throttle arm on the weber, today i tried but the bolt that goes through it is way larger on the weber than the stock. i cant just drillit larger because two sides of the hole must be flat, how do i put the stock throttle arm on the weber? is there another way to get full throttle?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By ROotUS (203.34.130.135) on Wednesday, April 25, 2001 - 09:56 pm:

mine went straight on... just hacksawed it a little for clearance.
i put the thing on today. hehe, funny. it doesn't idle, it runs, just...
it runs about two cylinders at a time when i get it started... then when i convice the engine to rev up a little... i can put my foot right down without choking it... and when it gets everything worked out the thing revs to infinity!!! and quickly i might add. webers and lightened flywheels are a great combo. but unfortunately, while i'm getting excited about all this wonderful noise coming from my motor... i seem to instantly creat a rather large low hovering cloud! i couldn't resist but to try driving it... i managed to get it down the road and around a roundabout... then i let it have it. it complained, but after a while i got it into it's sweet spot... and it was slow. but it did create yet another big cloud which managed to cover half the road with a wall of smoke. some bistanders gave me looks of non approval... but i was too busy laughing.

time to do some jetting?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By ROotUS (203.34.130.156) on Thursday, April 26, 2001 - 04:12 am:

silly me. i forgot to plug up the brake booster hole in the inlet manifold with a bolt. so i did, and all cylinders work at low revs now... but it blows smoke still like crazy. now even at low revs. and it wont run with constant throttle, i need to keep pumping it to keep it running.
at least with extra air being sucked in through the hole it would run without having to be pumped..
so any ideas on the problem i face with my weber 32/26? jetting? i bought a pair of leaner jets, they didn't really improve the setup much at all.

help? is there anyone out there with experience in jetting 32/36 for 1200?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By david (198.245.131.55) on Thursday, April 26, 2001 - 02:34 pm:

ROotUS, I feel your pain. Do you know of any reason that when you totally turn the mix. Screw all the way in, it doesn't make it run worse? it revs the fastest all the way in, acually.
And damn it, my primary throotle linkage is sticking again.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Anonymous (208.60.186.1) on Saturday, April 28, 2001 - 06:42 am:

What did you do about the 2 fuel lines?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By ROotUS (203.34.130.91) on Saturday, April 28, 2001 - 07:37 am:

i blocked on off... btw. i don't have a idle mixture screw.. i have another 32/36 that has it, but this just has a hole (a blocked one). wierd.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Todd (63.52.16.155) on Saturday, April 28, 2001 - 09:29 pm:

Hey David,
Your primary throttle plate sticking is why your mixture screw doesn't work. Buy a Weber manual. The stuff is very in depth, but is easy to grasp with the book.
Rootus, what do your spark plugs look like?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By ROotUS (203.34.130.195) on Saturday, April 28, 2001 - 11:11 pm:

hehe, one is totally soaked in oil... i've just blown my head gasket... i kinda stuffed it up when i put it on... and haven't retorqued it... i think when i hit my motor with the weber and how ever many thousand revs it made it do, it kinda blew it. now it's toasted.

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By owencousins (216.232.65.178) on Sunday, April 29, 2001 - 03:46 pm:

anyone else know the solution to my problem(above) or i am jst dead in the hesad? should the stock throttle arm fit right onto the weber throttle bolt thing?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By owen cousins (24.115.111.80) on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 01:37 pm:

anyone?

Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of pageLink to this message   By Charles R. (64.170.157.200) on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 11:36 pm:

With the slight mods mentioned elsewhere on this board, the stock 1200 Hitachi carb arm should fit fine. I'm not sure about the CVCC Keihin carbs' arm. For some reason we didn't use it on my friends CVCC. It's just been too long ago for me to recall why.


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