By ray (203.97.2.242) on Sunday, March 18, 2001 - 07:58 pm:

I have been told that the intake on a turbo 2 motor is higher than a normal turbo motor is this true? and will it still fit under the bonnet or are some modifications required? i am looking to put this motor into my eb2.
thanks,
Ray

By Charles (137.219.16.107) on Sunday, March 18, 2001 - 08:52 pm:

T2 intake will not fit under the bonnet of your SB civic. Either cut up the t2 intake or replace it with a T1 intake. We have T1 intakes for $50 if you want one. A modified highflow T2 intake will be $150.

By Ray (203.97.2.242) on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 12:51 pm:

can the intercooler be retained if i use the t1 intake? if not is there much modification required to fit the t2 intake.
(I have a alloy welder so welding is no problem)

By Charles (137.219.16.107) on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 03:00 pm:

Intercooler can be retained using any intake though I do not suggest using it in the stock city position as it tends to act as more of an interheater in that position.

If you are going to front mount the I/C, stick it next to the radiator (in front of the spark plugs), and when you modify your T2 inlet cut off the top 2 inches or so and then weld a plate over the top. Then fit a 2 inch or similar alloy pipe from the side of the inlet. If you are front mounting an I/C it is much neater to have the inet entrance point to the opposite side to original, so your cool air pipe can wrap around the timing belt cover and in (ie it does not run back over the rocker cover and through a really tight bend to get back into the inlet.

By ray (203.97.2.242) on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 04:03 pm:

thanks for the tip, is there a big gain in using a turbo 2 over a turbo 1 other than the intercooler? do you have any pictures of a finished conversion that you can send me?
here in NZ there are plenty of turbo 1's about but not to many turbo 2's a turbo 1 can be had cheap but is it better to wait for a good t2 to come along?
R

By Charles (137.219.16.107) on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 05:25 pm:

Either will do the trick. The T2 has no EGR, slightly bigger turbine and compressor housings on the turbo, slightly bigger throttle body and slightly more compression (7.6:1 compared to 7.5:1). Other than that it is identical to the T1. Both will make the same sort of hp.

Here is a T2 motor in a civic. Notice the new cut down plenium.

http://www.users.bigpond.com/Racecraft/Pictures/Mike_Muir_s_Civic/mike_muir_s_civic.html

Charles

By ray (203.97.2.242) on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 07:30 pm:

slightly more is good!!!!! i think that the t2 is the way to go.
the car in the pic looks cool is it one of your conversions? the plenium mod looks simple enough.
thanks for the help.roughly how much power do they make?

Ray
Ray

By Charles (137.219.16.107) on Monday, March 19, 2001 - 09:08 pm:

Depends what you do to them, a good condition motor on about 13-15psi, with a freeflowing cold air filter and a good exhaust straight off the turbo will make about 130-140hp at the flywheel. We have one here making 140hp @ the wheels (about 160-170hp at the flywheel, bigger turbo, 25psi boost, bigger injectors, forged pistons etc, headwork, stock cam and stock timing).

Mike did his own car, we just provided some parts.

By ray (203.97.2.242) on Tuesday, March 20, 2001 - 06:01 pm:

Just one more question, there has been talk of needing the swurl pot from the city, what is this thing how big is it and what does it do? can you run without it?
I am currently looking at buying a whole city turbo 2 i am hopeing that it will have everything that i need for the swap (it's almost a waste of a turbo2....almost but not quite)

By Charles (137.219.16.107) on Tuesday, March 20, 2001 - 06:38 pm:

You do not need a swirl pot (either external or internal) so that the high pressure pump always has a good supply of fuel at low tank levels. The Honda city one is internal, you would have to cut the tank open to get it out. You can buy external ones but for these you must use a low pressure high volume lift pump.