By oblivion (216.78.166.29) on Wednesday, October 10, 2001 - 03:33 pm:

ok, maybe I didn't come across like I wanted to in the last post. I don't want to fix my Ignition, :P I want a new one. I mean would a aftermarket Ignition not give me more power and smoother idle? I am always out to get more power out of this car, and I think the EK1 has a lot of potential. Are there any aftermarket ignition systems that will work well on this engine? Has anybody out there used them? What do you guys recommend?

By errol (64.12.107.166) on Thursday, October 11, 2001 - 04:18 am:

Sorry If I blurted out stuff. But Is your distributor in good shape? (no orange bushing dust or oil under the rotor?) I ordered a advance plate from Majestic Honda for about 15.00 and a vacume can for about 45.00 to make sure the advance works good and then I'm going to a crane or MSD unit to give a multiple spark to burn more efficiently. I'm just having trouble finding the right plug for my application. (I can't remember the NGK part number off hand) But it's not a 1600 EF plug. I read that If you advance the timing too much the explosion process works against you. If you can picture it, (piston,rod,crank throw from the end of the engine) If the crank throw is too far before TDC the explosion actually stops the rotation slightly. But if the crank throw is just before TDC or very lsightly past, the explosion occures and blows the piston/rod/throw down in it's rotation and setting up the next cylinder for a compression. That's why it's actually better to use a longer rod because you can stay at TDC for just a split second longer for that crank throw to come over and start on the backside. So if youre still firing witha multiple spark. You're burning more efficiently and getting just a little more power. And it gives a longer time for the cylinder to 'fill' before the compression stroke. Although a very short time it DOES make a difference. (good reading is Smokey Uniks Power secrets!) It's all the same....

By koop95 (24.102.134.112) on Thursday, October 11, 2001 - 01:30 pm:

As a matter of fact, the you want the explosion to happen just after the piston has started to move down in the stroke. The time that the flame front takes to move across the cylinder is what causes a problem. It takes roughly the same time at idle as it does at redline. This is why a good vacuum advance and a 'recurved' distributor is necessary. If the advance doesn't happen, you'll have great torque but your engine will run out of breath at top end. For an MSD or similar ignition, I believe you need some kind of crank position sensor. A fuel injected car will have one for the ECU. Once you get around that hurdle, take the distributor right out. The spark no longer has to jump a gap in the distributor, therefore more energy to fire in the cylinder. BTW, look at the post 'Performance Electronics' to see what I'm up to in this field.
Chris