By Ramon (207.5.4.1) on Wednesday, February 06, 2002 - 10:33 am:

If anybody has access to a good original non cvcc cylinder head in Canada I am looking for one or possibly two. I am in California and shipping would be no problem.

Thanks
Ramon

By Anomalous (24.70.95.203) on Wednesday, February 06, 2002 - 05:34 pm:

What block do you need the heads to fit? We never got any 1.5 non cvcc in Canada in 1980-1981(only 1.6).You will also need intake,exhaust and carb.

By Ramon (207.5.4.1) on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 09:41 am:

If I am thinking correctly the cylinder heads are the same on the 1.5 and 1.6. It is the bottom end that is differnt. 1.5 stroke is 86.5mm and 1.6 was 94mm. On the block it say EMI think I will try and clean it off tonight and get a better look. Does anybody have a picture of the intake and exaust side of this head also? I already have an intake and header.

By quikrick (63.204.16.66) on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 10:10 am:

Ramon, Look at these...

Both of these are Canadian 8 valve heads. Both are 1600's. The one on top is the late EL1 with bigger combustion chambers. The one on bottom is (I think) a EG1, smaller combustion chambers, notice the bigger gap between the two center cylinders. This one will fit the 76-78 US EL1 1600 and the 76-79 ED series. It should also fit the 80-83 EM1 1500.
I have the name and Phone # of a Canadian junkyard where I've bought a couple of heads, click on my name above to email me for the info.

By quikrick (63.204.16.66) on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 10:48 am:

Here's a better shot of the intake/exhaust side of the EG1 head.

By Ramon (207.5.4.1) on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 12:45 pm:

Ok the one the bottom looks like the one I need. 1980-1983 should work. Anybody have one or know where to get one. Justin you seem to have a lock on just about everything what's your 2 cents?

By Anomalous (24.70.95.203) on Thursday, February 07, 2002 - 05:19 pm:

The top one is a 82-83 EL(valve order EIEIIEIE).The other is a 79-81 EL(valve order IEEIIEEI).The 76-78 EG(valve order IEEIIEEI) is basically the same as the 79-81 EL.

By quikrick (63.204.16.66) on Friday, February 08, 2002 - 08:46 am:

Anomalous,
So what would you say is the differenfce between the early 79-81 EL and the 76-78 EG?
IF the one on the bottom is a 79-81 EL then why does it have 74mm dia. chambers? shouldn't they be 77mm like the 82-83 EL? You see... the US 79-81 EK has a 77mm cylinder bore. I don't think that Honda ever produced a 8 valve head to match the US 79-81 EK1. I wish someone could prove me wrong! I have a head gasket for a US 79-81 EK sitting here on my desk, I am willing to send it to any good Canadian who would be willing to help me solve this mystery once and for all!!

By Ramon (207.5.4.1) on Friday, February 08, 2002 - 09:07 am:

Is there a difference in the head bolt pattern from the 79-81 el and the 76-78 EG? This will help in deciding which one to look for.I also have a 1751 with a 8 valve head in the race car I bought I will try to get some pictures this weekend for you. It is huge looking without all the cvcc junk. Straight from my Jackson Racing catalog circa 1985 these heads only came from Europe. If you want come on down to check it out in person.

By Anomalous (24.70.95.203) on Friday, February 08, 2002 - 05:23 pm:

My mistake Quikrick,the bottom one is a EG(76-78).The only difference is the bore.EG(76-78) 74mm EL(79-81) 77mm EL(82-83) 77mm. Yes,Honda did produce an 8 valve head to match the US 79-81EK.In the US from 76-78 wasn't it EF?Above you say that the 76-78EG will fit the 76-78EL(is there such a beast?) and the 76-79ED.I though the EG only fit the ED and EF?

By Ramon (207.5.4.1) on Monday, February 11, 2002 - 08:58 am:

So that means I am looking for a 76-78 EG head correct? Anybody have one for sale in Canada or know where to get one?

By Ramon (207.5.4.1) on Monday, February 11, 2002 - 03:50 pm:

Ok Rick gave me a # he got his from and they no longer have Civic'c that old in stock. Anybody have any Possible leads?

By quikrick (63.204.16.66) on Monday, February 11, 2002 - 05:28 pm:

My mistake Anomalouse (David F?) I meant to say 76-78 US EF1 1600. I know that you live far far away... but it can't be any worse than Australia or Europe. Click on my name above and give me your address so I can send you this head gasket, & work out some details ($$). You can wait till things thaw out a bit up there before you go a 'huntin, no hurry. Just let me know.

By Anomalous (24.70.95.203) on Monday, February 11, 2002 - 05:56 pm:

I've only seen a couple 76-78EG in the last few years.Lots of 79-81EL though.I did see one last weekend at one of the local Upulls.A Complete 76 Accord 2dr 5spd.Yes it did have the original engine.I always check out the first gen Hondas.Oddly enough they also had a 78 Accord that someone had swaped in an EM.

Why not dump the EM idea and step up to a 79-81EK with the 79-81 EL head?Or the 82-83EK with the 82-83 EL head?You won't have any trouble finding these,they always have lots of 79-83 Accords at the Upulls up here.

By Ramon (207.5.4.1) on Tuesday, February 12, 2002 - 11:00 am:

I already have a new short block, header, and Weber setup for this motor. So I am just trying to make it work without putting back on the cvcc head. How much for the head you saw at the upull yard? I need the cam and valve cover too. I would pay you for your time. You can email direct if you want.