By Clancy on Sunday, April 09, 2000 - 08:36 am:

This question was touched on b4, but i'm interested in a bit more info.
the bang for bucks setup is the en1 crank and rods in the eb2 block with some happy pistons.
The question is, would it not be a lot easier to just chuck and eb2 head on and en1 block, keeping the stock en1 pistons. This way, you get all the stroke you would get, and u get more compression. How much compression i don't know, but a bit more at least. Wouldn't this then be a heaps easier upgrade, as it involves less work.
as a side note, i was at the wreckers today, checking out all the same civics i'd checked out a hundred times b4. i come to this poor rusty red tipped over 77 eb2. for some reason i ran my hand over the exhaust manifold. strangely the flange was a lot chunkier than normal. ahh i thought, en1 exhaust, but when i looked, what was it? none other than a genuine honda RS MANIFOLD!!! score!
got it and the rest of the exhaust for $65 AUS.
Brilliant! anyway, that was my find of the year, but that's got nothing to do with my question.

By Charles ( - 137.219.16.31) on Sunday, April 09, 2000 - 09:40 pm:

Hey Clancy,
Get back there and check the rest of the motor. It may have been a GL Motor (check the engine code), this will give you the same cam/rockers as the RS and the same head. The GL motor was virtually the same as the RS but without the carbs.

By FreeRev on Sunday, April 09, 2000 - 09:52 pm:

Where in Aus????

By Clancy on Monday, April 10, 2000 - 04:36 am:

i think it was just an eb2, if eb1, want me to write down the engine no.?
and as far as the head goes, how can u tell?
and i'm in newcastle, aus, and if it's good it's mine, oh yeah, and will someone pls answer my question cos i want to know for the next time i blow a head gasket, if i just chuck on an eb2 head, will it be goodly?
oh and the other thing, my en1 engine goes good,
it likes to snap mounts and has a tendancy to blow smoke, but it's good, the only problem i find is it feels good down low, but tends to feel like it's reaching up high, could this be due to the stock eb2 exhaust on it, cos it felt good when i drove it in the 2nd gen civic, but ever since it been in my civic it's been good, but just not as good.

By Clancy on Monday, April 10, 2000 - 04:49 am:

i think it was just an eb2, if eb1, want me to write down the engine no.?
and as far as the head goes, how can u tell?
and i'm in newcastle, aus, and if it's good it's mine, oh yeah, and will someone pls answer my question cos i want to know for the next time i blow a head gasket, if i just chuck on an eb2 head, will it be goodly?
oh and the other thing, my en1 engine goes good,
it likes to snap mounts and has a tendancy to blow smoke, but it's good, the only problem i find is it feels good down low, but tends to feel like it's reaching up high, could this be due to the stock eb2 exhaust on it, cos it felt good when i drove it in the 2nd gen civic, but ever since it been in my civic it's been good, but just not as good.

By Clancy on Monday, April 10, 2000 - 04:54 am:

whoops
how did that happen ???

By Nikolaj ( - 213.197.5.77) on Tuesday, April 11, 2000 - 06:30 pm:

I share the urge for knowledge on the eb2-head on en1-block, the question has been asked before and as I am saving to get a turbo, this could be a good alternative meanwhile..
I guess the flat pistons mean you can't be snapping your belt (safely) no more!!

By Nikolaj ( - 213.197.5.77) on Tuesday, April 11, 2000 - 06:31 pm:

btw, i think i have a eb3-head...
wasn't this the better head??

By Clancy ( - 203.19.10.29) on Tuesday, April 11, 2000 - 08:59 pm:

I did actaully shred a timing belt when i first got the engine,
but no problems ever came from it
I assume the pistons came from an eb3 engine

By Clancy on Tuesday, April 11, 2000 - 09:02 pm:

Assuming my pistons are eb3 in origin, they're in an en1, would the eb2 put the compression up too much or would it still be ok?

By freeRev on Wednesday, April 12, 2000 - 12:09 am:

The eb3 head is the good one.
Clancy your find is safe from me as the only RS stuff i want is the carbs and dizzy angle drive,
not the pistons or block. but i would still like to know what wreckers so i can have a look, you not talking about lake monmorra,
they have a few civics there i just grapped a set of mags 13x5.5, 120x4 and i saw they had a few different civics like one 2nd gen that had modern plastic rear bumber bars and one accord that some one had started converting into a bathtub (softtop)

By Adrian (Civicguru) on Wednesday, April 12, 2000 - 12:16 am:

RS civics did not use an angle dizzy drive. The RS twins fit quite happily next to a standard dizzy. The angle drive was used with the Mugen quad carb kit.

By Clancy on Wednesday, April 12, 2000 - 08:49 pm:

ok, i was down at peps ordering some piston rings,
and in the gasket/bearing/ring book they had pictures of pistons in the back, and the en1 does have domed pistons,
i'm confused

By Nikolaj ( - 213.197.5.112) on Wednesday, April 12, 2000 - 10:58 pm:

yeah, i'm still wondering what the real difference is between using the en and eb pistons.
is there a big gain in using the eb-ones? or do they simply go better with the eb-head, and the bigger valves??
i like the fact that my engine can lose its timing belt...it saved my engine once allready.

By John S. (207.160.161.178) on Tuesday, February 13, 2001 - 10:58 am:

Someone, (machine shop) on eBay selling fresh reconditioned EB2 rods w/ 1mm oversize EB2 pistons already pressed on. eBay #556307995