By Dave ( - 216.209.113.187) on Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 09:52 pm:

By Adrian (Civicguru) on Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 09:56 pm:

It's a Zot (Z360 probably).

By Dave ( - 216.209.113.187) on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 12:06 am:

here is one in nice shape. Air cooled 600 cc

By ray balaster on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 12:12 am:

dave! where is that? i want it!!!!

By Dave ( - 216.209.113.187) on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 12:15 am:

Look here on Ebay. There are a few of them here.
Ebay

By Dave ( - 216.209.113.187) on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 12:16 am:

The yellow one is just one that I found on a site in Japan.

By ROotUS ( - 198.142.191.119) on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 05:08 am:

i know someone with one of those he got for 20 bucks i think... he would sell it (don't really know him).
i looked at the rev guage, and it goes up to 10,000... hehe motorbike style.

By Dave on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 06:44 am:

Hey Rootus can you please email me some more info reguarding that car. Where and who and what ever else you find out. Is it a Hatchback? Thanks

By John S. ( - 207.160.161.165) on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 12:22 pm:

Hey Ray,
You may not want one that bad... I've owned two of them...top end is 80MPH (downwind)...they don't really get that much better gas mileage than our Civics...60MPH is about 5500RPM...they have a roller bearing crank assembly which is fine till it breaks...then it's high a dollar fix...almost no aftermarket parts available, and some factory parts are virtually nonexistant...trust me they are no where near the ride our 1stGen Civics are. I do wish I'd kept the one I bought new in 1973 for 1575.00 out the door...drove it a year and put 6000 mi. on it then sold it to a friend, and he drove it till the wheels rusted off. I should have put a tarp over it instead.

By flyingpineapple ( - 203.12.222.213) on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 07:00 pm:

we used to own an s600 black one YOU DO NOT WANT ONE THEY ARE A F%#$ING PIECE OF CRAP
I've got a photo of it ill try to dig up one day and post it

By Nick ( - 209.53.115.98) on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 08:33 pm:

All the top one needs is a flux capacitor!!

By Dave on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 09:24 pm:

What is so crappy about them??? Engine?? Who cares dump in something different. I only remember ever seeing one in my life and I thought at the time that is was dam ugly now it is kinda growing on me. I was only a little kid when I saw one and at that time the cars that were cool were Mustangs, camaros and even a Daytona hemi car that was near by. My Brother back then was driving a 73 Toyota Corolla. To tell you the truth I just remember looking at one from the back as it sat in a parking space and thinking "weird".
If anyone know where there is a hatch back kicking around let me know. Also was the back window plexi glass? Reason why I ask is the blue one up top looks like the hatch glass is bent at the top or is it just a reflection?

By John S. ( - 207.160.161.178) on Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 02:29 pm:

Rear window is glass...outer window frame is plastic...they had a bad habit of popping the rear glass out in really cold weather if you were lucky enough to hit the right bump. Most of them you see have some kind of funky glue or silicone holding them in now.
I repeat...this was not the car that made Honda what it is today...but they are part of it's history none the less.

By Nikolaj ( - 195.240.204.200) on Sunday, December 03, 2000 - 12:11 am:

They probably don't drive like the civic, no..
That is why they design newer cars. But it does have the classic value the civic doesn't have yet. If you have one in good shape, cherish it and the motor-cycle-engine it carries. Did you guys also get the S800?? It's like a lil' roadster with a lil' bigger high-rev engine..
These cars are worth something here in Holland, for sure. They are Honda's first cars, the civic was Honda's first succesfull car (off course)!

By Dave ( - 206.172.136.78) on Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 09:29 am:

Here is something else you do not see everyday

By JJ on Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 09:46 am:

Check out
http://www.honda600owners.com/

By barry ( - 168.132.10.2) on Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 07:26 pm:

Another "something you don't see every day.

By Dave ( - 216.209.113.17) on Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 08:30 pm:

You know what really kills me? ... Just think the guy in the car thinks he looks cool hahahhahahahah

By Brian Wilborn on Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 08:46 pm:

Hmm, wonder where that picture was taken? Here in the ghetto, "cholo-mobiles" (as I call them) are not all that uncommon here. :)

By Todd (63.52.3.253) on Friday, January 12, 2001 - 05:21 am:

Hey Guys, Check this out.
http://www.classifieds2000.com/cgi-cls/ad.exe?P11+C239+A0+R110299+Q250654642

By flyingpineapple (203.20.238.134) on Monday, January 29, 2001 - 01:03 am:

the best honda zot (or whatever it is) was the one on the movie malcolm the yellow one that splits in half and becomes 2 motorbikes

By Zoin (206.172.136.120) on Thursday, June 14, 2001 - 07:12 pm:

Oh oh something that blows the Honda away in the "cute" department. My 11 year old son actualy said "its adorable"

By Zoin (206.172.136.91) on Friday, June 15, 2001 - 04:57 am:

Well darn the pic is too big. I will try to make is smaller.

If anyone knows of one of these please let me know. Thanks

By Ramon Milano (207.5.4.95) on Friday, June 15, 2001 - 07:47 am:

Where is that thing from?

By Travis (24.4.254.156) on Friday, June 15, 2001 - 02:06 pm:

Thats when closterphobio (spelling?) starts to kick in... But it would be fun.

By jms (144.59.13.2) on Friday, June 15, 2001 - 09:30 pm:

Wow, nice yard I can see a VW bug and van back there (opps did I say VW-my second love affair after honda). Also looks like a rust free area. Unlike NY. Where is that anyway?

By Anonymous (208.60.186.57) on Saturday, June 16, 2001 - 08:22 am:

I think that is a crosley....U.S. made in the early fifties, I could be wrong

By Travis (24.4.254.156) on Saturday, June 16, 2001 - 12:27 pm:

do you know anything about it... engine... weight... ect...?

By Travis (24.4.254.156) on Saturday, June 16, 2001 - 05:20 pm:

Well I found the smallest street legal car... Only one made... so it'not like we can go buy it... It is owned by a guy here in Washington State



http://www.classiccar.com/articles/history/arbet.asp

By Anonymous (208.60.186.13) on Sunday, June 17, 2001 - 07:24 am:

I guess that is not really a production car and just made for a joke eh? Who could fit in that thing?

By Travis (24.4.254.156) on Sunday, June 17, 2001 - 01:26 pm:

No, only one was made... back in the 50's... it is a convertable so the head room is not a problem... but you might be kissing legs to fit.
Just something interesting to look at.

Travis

By Zoin (206.172.136.224) on Sunday, June 17, 2001 - 03:35 pm:

The car in the yard that I posted above is a 1959 Vespa.....you know the same people that made the Vespa scooters. There were about 2500 of them sold here in N America. They actually have alot of leg room in them as they use the "hood" area. The engine is in the back and is a 2 stroke. They weigh about 800lbs and are 8'11" by 50". That car is one I am trying to get my wifes support on the purchase. It is in California. They are pretty rare. And such a neat little rig. If anyone knows where there are any micro cars like this or Isettas or Meshersmidts let me know. Micro cars are sooo cool!!

By Travis (24.4.254.128) on Sunday, June 17, 2001 - 04:21 pm:

Yeah.. that is awsome. How much is the place charging you for it... ? Is it running... What size 2 stroke.. A two seater I am guesing. IS there any place on line that has info on any of these micro production cars? Turning it into a convertable with the top being removable would be real nice. Big 2 stroke maybe... But yeah that is a neet little car... with a big enough engine I bet you could get it to pull wheelies.

Travis

By Zoin (209.226.248.22) on Sunday, June 17, 2001 - 07:38 pm:

I am not sure of the engine size. It is a convertable. The center of the roof is canvas and folds down. The guy wants $3000 for it. The starter motor went on it 7 years ago and it has not run since. Yes it is only a two seater. There are a few links. Do a search on "vespa 400" you should find something.

By Zoin (209.226.248.22) on Sunday, June 17, 2001 - 07:46 pm:

I found this info on it.
Specifications

Layout: Rear Engine, Rear wheel drive.
Engine: Two cylinder, two stroke, air cooled. Bore, stroke: 63mm x 63mm (392 cc).
Compression ratio: 6.4 to 1.

Suspension: Four wheel independant.Four double acting hydraulic shock absorbers with coil springs.
Transmission: 3 speed, with 2nd, 3rd and reverse synchromesh. 4 speed available in non US markets.
Body Dimensions: Width: 50 inches. Length: 112.5 inches. Height: 49.2 inches. Weight: under 850 lbs. Track, front and rear: 43.3 inches. Wheelbase: 66.75 inches.


Performance: With only 18 hp, there isn't any. Top speed is 50 to 55 mph, depending on road grade, wind conditions, etc. Achieving said top speed takes a leisurely 25 seconds. The reward for your patience is roughly 55 mpg.

By Travis (24.4.254.156) on Sunday, June 17, 2001 - 10:00 pm:

Yeah I went to the same web site that that was one... His blue one is nice... Yeah that is a neat little car man.... I still think a newer 2 stroke in there would kick butt... Hope everything works out for ya man.

Travis

By tedshred (63.224.195.169) on Monday, June 18, 2001 - 08:49 am:

Put a 900cc Honda or Yamaha motorcycle engine in there, some stiffer shocks, sticky rubber, and a really good role cage!

By culturevirus (12.13.226.13) on Wednesday, June 20, 2001 - 06:45 am:

I've seen that little bitty car in person a couple years ago at a car show. I saw one of the Vespas for sale at a VW show in Puyallup WA just about a month ago. The price was really reasonable, alas I was short on cash and my wife would never approve of yet another project car...

By tedshred (63.224.195.169) on Wednesday, June 20, 2001 - 02:02 pm:

This guy done the street from me restores Isetta's and sells them to the local high-school boys who keep coming back to him for repairs. They are pretty cool looking, but I wouldn't take one in a hard corner.

http://homepages.tesco.net/~markperkins/microcars/

By Zoin (206.172.136.202) on Thursday, June 21, 2001 - 06:15 pm:

Well my wife has "given" me the go-a-head to get that blue Vespa above. I will be getting it shipped to my brother inlaw in Michigan. Can you peeps please Give me some advice on making a long distance purchase and delivery. The present owner does not have the title as he lost it but is getting another for it. I am not sure what shipping co I am using yet but I have a few quotes comming in. Some will not ship cars that are not running. We have not hammered out the final price and I am not sure even what payment method to use. I am in Canada and he is in California. The vespa will be insured for the delivery. Anything I should be wary about. Go ahead and fire your suggestions away. Thanks guys.

By david (198.245.131.55) on Saturday, June 23, 2001 - 03:03 pm:

If anyone has a burning desire for a honda n600 sedan or coupe, i just found a resource. the guy has tons in all conditions.

By Travis (24.4.254.156) on Saturday, June 23, 2001 - 05:00 pm:

I would like one... Depending on location and pricing.

Travis

By Ed (24.43.71.141) on Monday, June 25, 2001 - 04:49 pm:

David:

IF the guy who has tons of n600's has a passenger side mirror (black plastic), it will also fit 73 to 76 civics... so grab me one if you can.

let me know how much first:
email: ebelsey@home.com

thanks
Ed

By Zippy (Zippy) (205.188.196.31) on Monday, June 25, 2001 - 04:53 pm:

There is a Zot (??) in the August 2001 Grassroots Motorsports on page 131.

By Zoin (216.209.113.12) on Tuesday, June 26, 2001 - 10:07 pm:

Wow I did not get one bit of advice on purchasing and shipping a car over a long distance. Have you guys not realy done it or just did not see my post? Thanks

By david (198.245.131.55) on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 03:38 pm:

i live in portland, or US. anyone interested should email me at nooneon@hotmail.com
ed, i know he has the passenger side mirrors. email me too.

By Anonymous (24.43.71.141) on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 09:04 pm:

shipping long distances.............

I had my 76 CVCC shipped from LA to Buffalo, then drove it home (near Toronto, Ontario, Canada) - cost $700 US 4 years ago.

I also had my 76 1200 shipped from Columbia SC, to Niagara Falls,NY ,then drove it home , it cost $400 US last year.

as far as shipping overseas... never done it.

as far as crossing borders... the US border guys seemed to be wannabe cops who probably failed the academy, but are still on a power trip AND have a gun ... they treated me like a criminal despite me EXPORTING FROM the US and importing into Canada. ... I was locked in a room while they inspected the car THOROUGHLY in a locked garage.

I didn't understand why they cared whether I was exporting a classic !?!?!

when I got to the Canadian side..... the Canadian Customs official asked if I had anything to declare. I said the car in the parking lot. He asked for the ownership and bill of sale. stamped it... I paid the duty... and drove off. He never even left the building to inspect it... he looked out the window towards the parking lot where it was parked next to the bridge to the US, and said he had one just like it in high school and loved it too.

AND I WAS IMPORTING IT !! you think that customs officials from any country would be most concerned with what comes into their country, not necessarily what leaves their country !!!

By jms (144.59.13.2) on Wednesday, June 27, 2001 - 11:02 pm:

I am shipping mine from NY to AZ for $750 in August (moving). I can get the company's info for ya if you like. Its the cheapest rate Ive found.

By John S. (207.160.163.93) on Sunday, July 01, 2001 - 12:40 pm:

That's why we are such a "free" country...we are surrounded by morons who think everyone is a potenial criminal...probably because at heart THEY are the criminals who ignore the Constitution in their misguided quest to stop the druggies...didn't you know that in the seventies all ex-hippie drugcrazed freaks drove early Honda Civics?
Sorry... I got a little soapbox crazy...I'll just get back in line and keep quiet and keep my head down now.

By John S. (207.160.163.93) on Sunday, July 01, 2001 - 12:50 pm:

Oh, I left out the part about how they spent ZILLONS of dollars convincing us of how addictive a medicinal weed is, and how it would lead to harder drugs, all the while chain puffing cancer sticks laced with a substance now known to be pound for pound more addictive than Heroin. which IS the worst stuff imaginable...that is except for the even MORE addictive methadone they give Heroin addicts to "get them off" the Heroin.
OK, Now I'll get back in line and keep quiet and keep my head down.

By Nikolaj (213.197.4.172) on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 03:18 pm:

Don't get in line, just act like you do. Don't keep quiet, unless you hurt someone else with what you say. And....don't ever keep your head down!
Just sayin I'm with you, every word...

By quikrick (63.204.16.66) on Monday, July 02, 2001 - 03:42 pm:

We should start a little radical activist group... a nice one, all 1st gen Civic people... no maybe not, I don't want to get the administrator in trouble with the FBI, DEA, and of course the ATF.
;)

By John S. (209.223.82.122) on Thursday, July 05, 2001 - 12:47 am:

There used to be a 1st gen running around here in KC that some Art student had painted in camo.

By JMS (144.59.13.2) on Friday, July 06, 2001 - 12:49 am:

file/C:\WINNT\Profiles\Chapel
Desktop

By JMS (144.59.13.2) on Friday, July 06, 2001 - 01:03 am:

Anybody ever seen or heard of this...Honda T500 (pictured is a 1964), sorry pics arent the greatest.

By Travis (24.4.254.156) on Friday, July 06, 2001 - 04:20 pm:

Yep... One of the first (if not the first) production 4 wheel vehicle from Honda.

By jms (144.59.13.2) on Friday, July 27, 2001 - 11:58 pm:

FYI,
I read an article that said the very first Honda to roll off the line with 4 wheels was a 1963 T360 pickup. Sorry no pic but probably looks the T500 I posted above.

By Travis (24.4.254.128) on Saturday, July 28, 2001 - 12:07 am:

Is the same... Only with a diffent engine. My bad.

Travis

By jms (144.59.13.2) on Saturday, July 28, 2001 - 09:21 am:

Here is a pic of one, only-its a toy.

By Jms (Jms) (144.59.13.2) on Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 09:37 pm:

Where do you get these?

By Brian Wilborn (24.4.254.120) on Saturday, August 04, 2001 - 11:18 pm:

Those look like Auto Meter gauges. Check out http://www.autometer.com They've got some nice stuff.

By Don (209.181.52.56) on Sunday, August 05, 2001 - 09:41 pm:

That's what they did was to take out the stock gauges and put in the Autometers. If your doing the same remember to think about a fuel gauge if your car does see street use. Some CVCC's had the separate fuel and temp gauges in a separate pod in the center of the dash.

By Mdouglas (Mdouglas) (199.72.111.49) on Monday, August 06, 2001 - 09:10 am:

Yes, Autometer Phantom Series Guages. Fit quite nice, almost perfect! I needed a Tach that would rev to 10K rpms. You'll need an adapter or fix a bracket to hold the speedo cable in.

They also have matching small guages for oil pressure, temp, etc. that would probably fit in the additional deluxe guage pod in the center of the dash.

These aren't cheap, but very accurate!

By Brian Wilborn (24.4.254.106) on Monday, August 06, 2001 - 07:54 pm:

So is that speedo a programmable model? I guess what I'm saying is, when you install the speedo, do you do the drive one mile to set thing to get it to read correctly?

By jms (144.59.13.2) on Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 06:36 am:

By Travis (24.4.254.156) on Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 01:35 pm:

Hehe, did you make that with th image fromt he e-bay shirt?

Travis

By Jms (Jms) (144.59.13.2) on Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 11:39 pm:

By jms (144.59.13.2) on Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 11:40 pm:

opps yeah, cool huh?

By jms (144.59.13.2) on Saturday, August 18, 2001 - 11:54 pm:

By jms (144.59.13.2) on Sunday, August 19, 2001 - 12:01 am:

Anyone know what that silver gas cap looking thing is in the first pic behind the rear window?

By Zoin (209.226.249.192) on Sunday, August 19, 2001 - 07:42 pm:

Dam! I am so envious of you guys and your rust free cars! Salted roads suck!

By Go4mo (Go4mo) (24.69.255.204) on Sunday, August 19, 2001 - 07:49 pm:

hey zoin .. me too .. rust free is a rare and beautiful thing!!!
some one said to me recently that"there is reust, and then there is HONDA rust ..

mo

By Jms (Jms) (144.59.13.2) on Sunday, August 19, 2001 - 10:52 pm:

Thats not mine, just thought everyone would be interested in seeing how similiar the Z600 aircooleds are to the 1200 civics. Gotta love the way those doors open too. So nobody knows what that silver round 'cap' is behind the rear window?

By Travis (24.4.254.156) on Monday, August 20, 2001 - 10:25 am:

I am pretty sure the silver cap is just decoration.

By HondaKid (208.160.214.70) on Monday, August 20, 2001 - 11:40 am:

Its the 600 Logo for this car. coupe....

By Jms (Jms) (144.59.13.2) on Tuesday, August 21, 2001 - 01:52 am:

Well it doesnt appeal to me. Shave it, fill it and slap some paint on it. Anyway from the pics it looks like a lot of parts from the 600 would be interchangeable with the 1200; seats, mirrors, steering wheel, headlights, directional lights, marker lights etc. I wonder why they changed the way the hood opens (or bonnet-for our AU amigos) on the 1200s? I am glad they did, it gives it nice appearance. Which way does it open on the S600 & S800? In remarkable shape those cars can carry a five digit price, like the pic up above.

By John S. (208.188.193.189) on Tuesday, August 21, 2001 - 11:58 am:

I've seen the RatFink before, but I'm usually the one driving the Civic, and he's usually the one driving a jacked up, rustbucket, four by four with little or no mufflers.

By Jms (Jms) (144.59.13.2) on Wednesday, August 22, 2001 - 03:30 am:

Ok, Ratfink by definition isnt desirable. But I was copying that character that Ed Roth made famous in the 60s or 70s (before my time). Bad graphics anyway, I need more computer classes.

By jms (144.59.13.2) on Thursday, August 23, 2001 - 02:29 am:

Anyone know if these dash covers are still available anywhere, JCWhitney had them, but no longer does?

By jms (144.59.13.2) on Thursday, August 23, 2001 - 02:35 am:

By glen (203.25.25.74) on Thursday, August 23, 2001 - 05:20 am:

In a Fast Fours magazine here in Australia, someone sent in a picture of one of these with a 1200 in it. It was in the Readers Rides section in the last couple of pages. Now that would be pretty quick.

By ddechon (12.78.129.57) on Thursday, August 23, 2001 - 08:42 am:

JMS,

I bought one of those dash covers on ebay a few months ago, but I don't like it. I think the stock dash looks better. Its new. All black. 2 pieces. I'll send it to ya for $10. (5 for the mat and 5 for shipping).

Let me know
Darrell
ddechon@yahoo.com

By tedshred (63.224.195.172) on Thursday, August 23, 2001 - 03:51 pm:

I'll take it if he doesn't want it Darrell. My dash is starting to suffer cracks from heat and sun.

tedd@oslc.org

By ddechon (12.78.178.4) on Thursday, August 23, 2001 - 05:29 pm:

Sure,

If JMS doesn't want it then I'll sell it to you ted. I emailed you too.

Darrell

By Charles (152.91.9.13) on Thursday, August 23, 2001 - 07:22 pm:

I owned one of those TN360 trucks. It was very cool and in mint condition. I had to move in a hurry and swapped it for a driveshaft and steering rack. Idiot. They rev like buggery and you can fit in Kawasaki 900 pistons and they actually do wheel stands!!

By jms (144.59.13.2) on Friday, August 24, 2001 - 12:05 am:

Hello Darrell,
Yes I would love to get that dash cover, it will save my mint dash from the harsh AZ sun. Thanx, I will send you $15 for the cover and shipping. Just tell me your address. I would buy the mat but someone else already sent me one, thanx again. Heres my address...

Jared M. Stokes
500S Coronado Dr.
APT 313
Sierra Vista, AZ 85635

By jms (144.59.13.2) on Friday, August 24, 2001 - 12:09 am:

Opps I thought you meant mat as in floor mat, cause I put a want ad up for one of those. I guess you were talking about the dash mat though. Yes I want it.
>
jmsmilin@hotmail.com

By jms (144.59.13.2) on Friday, August 24, 2001 - 12:17 am:

ps. sorry Ted if I come across another your first on the list to get it.
>
Charles have you seen this link Richard put up. It has a bunch "something you dont see everyday" there is also a real pic of the 360.
>
URL http://members.tripod.com/~Richard_Nasr/coolPics/

By jms (144.59.13.2) on Friday, August 24, 2001 - 12:19 am:

so thats $10 then

By jms (63.25.97.203) on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 06:27 pm:

Darrell thanx for the dash cover, I put it in and it looks good. Cant understand why ya didnt like it though-got anything else ya dont like he he. Well the Army ended up assigning me to Goodfellow AFB in San Angelo TX, ever heard of it? Now I cant wait to get the radio install kit from 2low to top off my interior.

By ddechon (12.78.126.69) on Tuesday, October 09, 2001 - 06:36 pm:

I'm glad to help. It doens't hurt to get some money back for it either. I'd like to get a new dash but I'll just keep putting tons of chemicals on the one I have. I'm still here at Andrews AFB. Our job does go to Saudi, but that's nothing new. I'll probably volunteer to go after I move next year. I hope to be stationed somewhere in CA (my home).

Darrell